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posted at 2/8/2002 6:17 AM |
ID# 20221
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A marvelous quote for the day:
"A human being is part of a whole, called by us the Universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself,his thoughts and feelings, as something seperated from the rest- a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty."
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posted at 2/8/2002 10:01 AM |
ID# 20226 This is a reply to: 20221
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Holobon,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- hard to improve on Einstein
>:-}}
- I suspect even he would support the idea of learning to "see from outside the envelope"
>:-}}
- and perhaps without having to prove it mathematically
>:-}}
reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/9/2002 2:21 AM |
ID# 20263 This is a reply to: 20226
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>- I suspect even he would support the idea of learning to "see from outside the envelope"
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
if the big E. would support the idea of learning outside the envelope, then he would maintain the envelope to be not-Einstein ... and Samsara-duality would steal the throne, causing Oneness to lock HerS-selves-ELF in the bathroom:
or not
greetings Holobon and Firekeeper, great thoughts for a late night, early morning reentry
boh
gassho and blessings around
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posted at 2/9/2002 10:58 AM |
ID# 20270 This is a reply to: 20263
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Beau,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- duality??
>:-}} a myth - or a figment of the two-hemisphered brain
>:-}}
- Einstein might claim: so there is Einstein and Not Einstein??-
- but Who is it that is asking the question and observing E and Not E??
- as a Teacher once mused: the opposite of Anything is Not -
- not a duality at all - since Not contains all that is Other than the Thing in question
>:-}}
Have a great weekend
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/9/2002 12:23 PM |
ID# 20274 This is a reply to: 20270
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Ah
i did myth the point
we could have an extensive nondual discussion but for
language itself is dual
and in this type of dualing, the white and black chess pieces would be the same
[that is unless Einstein stopped stretching the envelope and threw them in all pell-mell ~ a habit of nondualists]
blessings peter and terry
it is wonderful to be communicating
sometimes silence heals
sometimes it just hurts
but as 2 Corninthians says; 'We are dying ever, dying over to a new beingness: being emptied
~ and in that receive fullness upon fullness upon fullness: this day my fullness is joy
thanks great teachers
boh
gassho~
I will always wonder
a] if the a Teacher quoted is one
b] if the a Teacher oft quoted is Peter
c] if the a Teacher quoted is many
if dualism be a myth
then
a
b
c
are all correct
Before your teacher[??} , wise coyote, I bow.
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posted at 2/9/2002 12:37 PM |
ID# 20276 This is a reply to: 20274
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Beau,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- wasn't there a song some years ago - the theme song of Interpreters? I believe??
- Dueling Lingoes??
- but before I go look for a cordless phone where the handset has caller ID so my "language" is not tied to the same spot as my backside, I will suggest that language, in its universality, cannot be dual -
- given the quantity and quality of what gets lost in translation(s)
- I mean who or what is messing with what we say in between one speaker and the others -
bagl
Take care.
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/9/2002 8:05 PM |
ID# 20290 This is a reply to: 20276
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Dear Beau & Firekeeper,
So, to "E" or not to "E", that IS the question?
LOL...BAGL....
Holobon-E
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posted at 2/9/2002 9:53 PM |
ID# 20294 This is a reply to: 20290
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Holobon-E
you have this habit, terry
you wait on these remarkable banters and then you try to
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE- k
out the last letter
not this time
E
justkiddingboydidImissuyou
boh
gaSSHO
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posted at 2/9/2002 10:26 PM |
ID# 20295 This is a reply to: 20290
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My Dearest Holobon-mot,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- since I have accepted the number 42, I have no more Questions.
bagl
Reiki all aorund,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/9/2002 10:29 PM |
ID# 20296 This is a reply to: 20290
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Holobon,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
I forgot to suggest that to E or not to E seems to de-volve us back to duality -
- which is, of course, a myth
>:-}}
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/10/2002 7:30 AM |
ID# 20303 This is a reply to: 20296
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Dear Firekeeper,
but that was simply a question.....
I am of the opinion that one IS.
Perceptions may differ, but if one has perception than one must "BE".
A little Vitamin E all around?
Chortling Holobon
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posted at 2/10/2002 7:44 AM |
ID# 20304 This is a reply to: 20294
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Dear Beau,
I did not realize this was a contest...LOL...but Im NOT all that competitive, except in good fun. Always up for an impish perception. Too much seriousness makes for a dull world. Can you imagine all these human beings milling around with swelled brains..sorta like aliens...pulsatile masses of important information with lights & bells & whistles signaling their enormous intelligence...and there I am dancing around their feet, pulling at their cloaks like a court jester.
But there is never any disrespect meant.
The ability to laugh...to see the silliness in our lives is a connection to our imperfection, a recognition of our incompleteness. The irony is that if one recognizes imperfection, then one knows perfection as well.
To laugh is to be human. I dont doubt that the superhuman laugh as well.
Dont ask where this came from Beau, I havent a clue..just rolled right out...HaHa
Have missed you as well, fellow sniper!!
LOL
holobon
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posted at 2/10/2002 8:13 AM |
ID# 20306 This is a reply to: 20304
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well
I have not had
E
nuff of this word play
consider on holobon's joy post
"smiles are the window to the soul
laughter opens the door..." [[Friendship w/ God ~ Walshe]
and I would piggyback on Neil
joy is our entitlement
joy is our true nature
playfulness and gentle tease
are the winds of child/whole imagination
joy puts to death the illusion that we must struggle
~
on duality and language
language is the seeming illusion that the particular/individual self lives
for me we are One SELF
and
incredibly, paradoxically
each
individual, separate, un-repeatable
expressions, which the Divine
"Could not say in any other way"
this written:
S-selves-ELF [this cannot be logically, yet is]
ahhhhhhhhh
~
e
nuff?
~
One more word
I left 20 years of abuse on a basketball court last night.
An old coach told me to ...
move on.
WOW
~
and all those thousands of dollars in psychotherapy wasted!!
~
and peter, thank you for your gentleness with my daughter. She is a bit scared of the cafe, it represents some late night forees for her father's mind [for her, a quite scary place]
~
blessings, light, joy to you on this glorious feast
the feast of my patron, mentor/ress, name sake:
Sister Scholastica Schuster
~
I have a 1973 document on Peace and Suffering from her lecture I am working on
good sleep last night
second night away from my sacred three
~
in your love I rest and let the light wash o'er
love, gassho and thanks for the joy, you two
boh
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posted at 2/11/2002 4:38 AM |
ID# 20350 This is a reply to: 20303
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holobonbon
a gentle quarrel
I try to get rid of perceptions as soon as I get them. Empty, empty, empty, so many judgments, so many notions, such clinging ... for two days now I have had the experience not of perceiving ~
but of sending a gentle inquiry into the perceptions of others
now sooner or later
unfortunatley
that may turn into a perception of my own
I try not to let them harden
I spent decades in the Kingdom of Being Right
The castle is grand.
You rule supreme.
one problem: nobody visits you.
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I love to read your words; they ground me in the real, the true, the daring, the delightful
and the delight ahhhhhhhhhhhhh joy
our entitlement
thank you me lassie for sharing of the abundance
from a favorite suicide bipolar poetess:
abundance is scooped from abundance yet abundance remains
a. sexton "An awful rowing toward God"
gassho sweets
boh
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posted at 2/11/2002 10:12 AM |
ID# 20362 This is a reply to: 20303
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Holobon,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
- and it is the Questions that matter
>:-}}
- as for - I perceive therefore I Be??
- might this not translate to - I have Illusions therefore I Be??
bagl
Reiki all around,
all Blessings from Samsara,
Firekeeper
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posted at 2/11/2002 4:05 PM |
ID# 20386 This is a reply to: 20221
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holobon,
namaste,
Came to place a post and saw this.
Thanks honey, I was looking for that. The man had a lot of relevant things to say, most people don't see past his relative things to find them. :-)))
As for firekeeper, he is incorrigable. :-))
I think he needs a snipe hunt or at least a dance under the full moon. :-))
hugs,
Walk in beauty,
Becca
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posted at 2/11/2002 10:16 PM |
ID# 20411 This is a reply to: 20386
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Dearest Becca,
UH OH, you said it, "SNIPE HUNT"...can you hear the tremble of thousands of little snipe feet running for cover? HeHeHe.
holobon
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posted at 2/14/2002 3:25 AM |
ID# 20525 This is a reply to: 20362
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Illusion is only to be penetrated 'til
we
arrive
at
the interpenetrating conundrum of being, where e-verything is in e-verything else {walt wangerin jr., orpheus passages}
cher sharing, coyote teacher
gassho
boh
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posted at 2/14/2002 8:46 AM |
ID# 20530 This is a reply to: 20525
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boh,
/*\ Namaste :-}}
"A Good Traveler has no set Destination and is not Intent upon Arriving" - Lao Tsu
- Coyote's Corollary on Lao Tsu: - A Good Traveler has no Illusions about Destinations or Arrivals
>:-}}
Reiki all around,
all blessings,
Coyote
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