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bad psychic reading

posted at 4/26/2003 5:52 PM
ID# 49605

I went to a reader who I had gone to before who also does reiki and I sensed something different about her, almost demonic, she seemed very cocky and arrogant. My dad is sick with alzheimers she actually came out and told me when he was going to pass and to top it off she said my sister would go before him. I didn't respond at the time but felt it was unethical. Thw whole reading was kind of negative. Why would someone do this??? Because she also channels could she have been under the influence of an evil spirit????I will never seek these people out again...

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/26/2003 6:12 PM
ID# 49606
This is a reply to: 49605
Hi Eirelassey,

What an awful experience for you. I also have gone through that with a "psychic" and it took quite some time to come to grips with all she said. While I can't answer your questions as to why someone would do this, or if she was under the influence of a negative spirit, I can offer one little bit of comfort (I hope).

That is... *Know, without a doubt, that these are her perceptions only, and that your free will and that of your dad's, your sister's, and others in your family will always take precedence over what was said.*

It took a lot of soul searching on my part, but eventually I learned what I needed to learn from that experience. Honesty, respect, mutual love for all others.... laff, didn't realize it until now but it's just like the Reiki principles, isn't it?

Like you I vowed never to seek these people out again, but over time (roughly 5 years) I did relax and learn to take people again at face value. Not everyone will be like her.

Give yourself time to deal with this, and believe in what your heart tells you. Believe in the goodness of people, and the love that keeps us going. Everything will turn out as it is supposed to.

I hope this helps, e-mail me if you need to talk further.

In light and love,
Featherpoint

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/26/2003 6:13 PM
ID# 49607
This is a reply to: 49605
Dear eirelassey,

I'd go with your people instincts on this one.


Namaste,
Michael

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/27/2003 11:06 AM
ID# 49629
This is a reply to: 49605
eirelassey,

/*\ Namaste :-}}

- if she was truely having a "bad energy day" then simply ignore what she reports to have sensed.

- go with your gut, of course but be aware that we all can "mis-perceive" - from time to time

>:-}}

- yet if you "trusted" the readings before was it because you "liked" what was said more than what was reported that you share with us now??

- we may, of course, always pick and choose which readings we pay attention to and which we feel are "faulty" in some way

- but let us be sure that the picking and choosing is not a matter of our issues - before we look elsewhere for "blame"

- hope this helps

Reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper


-


re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/27/2003 9:24 PM
ID# 49643
This is a reply to: 49629

Thanks for the wisdom Firekeeper.
What I feel is unethical is telling a person when their terminally ill parent is going to die and telling them their sister is going to go also.I don't think it helps anyone to know the future, only God knows. The first reading I had with this person was positive, this time it was as if she was channeling an evil entity, everything was negative. I will no longer seek answers from psychics only from God and from within.The bible tells us not to seel these peole out and now I know why it is dangerous!!I learned a valuable lesson.

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/27/2003 10:12 PM
ID# 49646
This is a reply to: 49605
So many wise words in response to your post. When I sense something that I perceive to be negative I either keep it to myself or ask for guidance on how to present the information. It is usually in the form of a question... example....does a very large woman who only appears to me from the neck up have any meaning to you? Usually the person will fill in the missing blanks and we can move on from there. I might have sensed a passing only to find out that this woman was a relative who already passed and my client was very happy to have them appear. I especially find with Reiki that it is not up to me to interrpret and it is essential to pass only the information that we are guided to pass on and always with gentleness.

Yes, free will. Please keep in mind that we all have free will and so even the most doom and gloom reading is not guarenteed to come to fruition...thank goodness :-)


I have learned to trust my instincts when it comes to people. Are you Reiki level II? If so, I strongly suggest that if you ever find yourself in a similar situation protect yourself with the first symbol.

One final thought....we are all intuitive. Keep developing that part of you and you will not be tempted to seek that information from strangers.

Love & Blesings!

Reikilady

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 11:48 AM
ID# 49674
This is a reply to: 49605
Dear Eirelassey,

Perhaps, avoiding psychics is in your best interest in the long run. At the very least it is best to avoid a reader who makes you feel uneasy by her presence. However, if you went there to have her read your future & what she "saw" is what she told you then she did what you asked. I assume that she did not seek you out, you went to her? The position that a seer will or should filter out what is seen & only give you the positive vision is not something I understand. I would think it more unethical to hold back on what one sees, if one is certain about what is seen.
The deduction that she could be under an evil spirit's influence is typical of a fear reaction to what was predicted. It can't be true so she must be wicked or wrong. Sounds like the old, "She's a witch" response. Seeing one possible outcome of the future does not mean that this will come true.
In no way do I under estimate your feelings. It is most difficult to hear a prediction about loved ones that frightens and hurts us. Our relationships are often where our vulnerabilities lie.
But there is something in your reaction to what was predicted that bears a closer look. If you have the courage to examine your thoughts & fears related to this whole situation & follow them back a bit, peeling back the layers, you will find a message/lesson that goes beyond the obvious. For example,what were your expectations about the reading?
Arrogance & cockiness of another can make us feel uneasy or uncomfortable but may have absolutely nothing to do with us. Sometimes we just walk into the experience of the other person. As has been said, maybe it was just a bad day for her.
Unfortunately, having our future "read" is not always entertaining.


peace & joy,
holobon

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 12:46 PM
ID# 49681
This is a reply to: 49605
Namaste,

Anyone that has any kind of psychic gift should never give out information such as this. It is unnecessary and very unethical to say the least. These things come with a responsibility and quite frankly I'm shocked to say the least that someone who professes to be a healer would give out something so negative and emotionally damaging! Sounds like a fair bit of ego going on with this person.

And I have to say that in my own experience of having several readins done, even the best psychics get things wrong. So please try to put all this out of your head and get on with living your life without fear.

Blessings
helen

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 1:45 PM
ID# 49686
This is a reply to: 49674

Holobon,

namaste,

<:-}

As always, a lot of sense to what you say.

Normally, a psychic wouldn't be anxious to tell someone bad news. For myself, I struggle with the concept of telling only good news to people, and the middle path of trying to make things sound good on occasion....usually by telling the amount of time when it will be over, if I can.

Also consider, she may be under the influence of a dark being, or......the shadowy beings attached to you may be reacting with hers. She shouldn't have told you dates of death without your permission, but.....for some, it is possible to see it....or hear it and channel what they hear.. Perhaps you need the time to get ready for the loss...

However, on occasion, you can't put a positive direction on what you tell. I do a lot of readings weekly. Most of them about relationships. (usually pretty boring and the same questions..... bagl) Last week I told a woman that she shouldn't pursue, shouldn't even think about pursuing a relationship where she had a crush. I had a dark feeling around her that she would at the very least be physically hurt, perhaps worse. I emphasized it to her, so she would listen. She told me after the reading that the person she had a crush on is married, and has a very jealous spouse. I don't know if she will listen to me, but one can hope. As always, it is up to the person to choose whether they will listen to warnings.

>;-}

As Holobon said, peel back the layers and see what it is that you are afraid of, if you can. Remember the message isn't the problem, people tell you things daily that you don't like hearing, the same message to another person may not have affected them at all, how you receive the message and use it, is up to you.

Blessings,

Priestess

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 1:53 PM
ID# 49690
This is a reply to: 49643
eirelassey,

/*\ Namaste :-}]

- unethical?? if one goes for a reading then whatever comes up is fair game, actually

- one view, at least

- whether it was very tactful to just dump the "extra" stuff on you all at once is, of course, another matter

- there are, in my view, "kinder" ways of doing this

>:-}}

- reiki all around,

all blessings,

Firekeeper

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 2:52 PM
ID# 49698
This is a reply to: 49605
i am sorry you had such a bad experience. perhaps (and i'm trying to give the benefit of doubt here) this person, since having established a relationship with you prior to this reading, felt that this was information was important for you to know. while i dont put too much faith in fortune tellers, i would hope that whatever reading one gets is an honest one and not just what they want to hear.
perhaps negative, but no, not unethical.
sometimes people die unexpectadly. sometimes they outlive doctor's predictions. who knows?
if your father is sick, be with him now, dont worry about when he is going to pass on. enjoy each moment you have with him while he is here.
as for psychics, my experience is that all the answers are already in one's own heart. sometimes we dont want to hear what we know, instinctively to be true.
if it is comfort you seek, then take comfort in this time with your family that you have while they are with you.
enjoy each moment and let go of the past and the future.
just for today, do not worry.
namaste,
skywatcher.

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 6:24 PM
ID# 49707
This is a reply to: 49681

Thank You rainbow, Your response resonates with me the most. I am surprised at some I think most people would be outraged if they went to a reader and they told them their family members were going to die soon. I don't think its ethical at all. Iwill try to put it all behind me. Ilearned a valuable lesson that I hope others don't have to learn as well. Just simple stay away from psychics.

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/28/2003 10:47 PM
ID# 49717
This is a reply to: 49605
Hi eirelassey. Don't count too heavily on this reading. When my husband was a teenager and in Burma at the time a woman read his palm and told him he was going to die at age 29. Needless to say we lived with a gnawing apprehension as we approached this age. What it turned out to be was that we became pregnant with our first child at that age, and Jim was forced to abandon his acting career in order to support a young family. The "death" was not a physical one, but a death of a way of being.
Namaste,
Starlight

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/29/2003 10:42 AM
ID# 49732
This is a reply to: 49707

If you only want to be told positive things it seems like the only ethical thing for you to do is to tell whoever you go to that that is what you are looking for. But to go to someone and expect them to just tell you things that you will like and leave out what you don't is not fair to say the least.

How would you react if she didn't tell you something negative and then it happened. Wouldn't you complain that you had paid good money to find out the future and you weren't told. Especially if you later found out that they saw it and withheld the information from you so you weren't able to be prepared for it when it came?

What did you really want when you went to the reading?

If you can figure that out your lesson will be learned and if you ever do go back to a psychic you can tell them ahead of time so you will only get "good psychic readings."


re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/29/2003 11:38 AM
ID# 49736
This is a reply to: 49707

i understand how upsetting this must have been for you.
a few years ago i was given information that someone in my immediate family was going to die. not by a psychic, but in a dream, i was witness to a funeral and in every sense of my being i knew the purpose of this dream, just not the 'who' part of it. this dream scared me so bad that i brushed it aside and didnt give it a second thought. two months later my father (whom i had been estranged from for well over a year) passed away. the funeral was exactly the same as it had been in the dream.
my only regret is that i did not take the information i was given more seriously and make peace with my family. i was given an opportunity to say goodbye and wish him well in the next life and because of fear of death and loss and my own stubborness i did not take that opportunity.
personally, i would wish to know if someone close to me was going to pass on. this way i could be somewhat prepared (as much as one can prepare for such things) and to have the chance to tell them exactly how special they are to me and just how grateful i am to have known them in this lifetime.
our culture is so in fear of death that we send our loved ones on to their next lives with tears and sorrow.
if i were to die tomorrow i would not want those i love and care for to be sad, i would want them to take joy in the wonderful moments we have spent and to know that i know how much they love me and that i wish for them a happy and wonderful life.
namaste,
skywatcher.

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/29/2003 9:27 PM
ID# 49774
This is a reply to: 49736

Skywatcher, Thank you for your reply. My Dad is terminally ill with alzheimers I am one of his caregivers and I adore him. I know this is going to happen and I don't need to know when. One thing I have learned as much as you can prepare yourself your never really prepared. Grieving has been ongoing for many years with this disease.Until you have taken care of someone youu love that is dying you can't even imagine it! The last thing you need to hear from someone is a death date, it is not a relief for me to hear that just a cruel and upsetting reminder.Even 2 years ago a friend said oh he'll be gone by next month it wasn't true. I think there is an insensitivity on most peoples part with this . Only until you have walked in my shoes can you truly know what its like. The last thing a grieving family needs is a date.

re: bad psychic reading

posted at 4/30/2003 5:28 AM
ID# 49788
This is a reply to: 49774
Namaste eirelassey...

I have been there, and have walked that path. It is a cruel disease, and the impact not fully understood unless it has been experienced personally. (like most things in life)

I hope you and yours stay strong, draw strength and comfort from each other, and take time for yourselves! Caregivers need time away to nuture themselves, and see the beauty and miracles of life. As much as it is an honour to care for a seriously ill loved one, it is vital to care for yourself and the other caregivers too.

((HUGS)) & Blessings.......z